Two generations of completely failed technology

March 27, 2008

I just love this quote from Rod Johnson: “The Entity Bean technology somehow ignored every piece of prior art, with the result that you had two generations of completely failed technology … The cause of object-relational mapping probably lost at least six years because of that, and [it caused] billions of dollars of wasted development.” I recall quiet distinctly the first time I looked at the EJB 1.0 specification and played with an implementation. I remember taking a sharp dislike to the technology and thinking that I would never use it. And I was right, I’ve never once used any EJBs (neither entity nor session beans) in any product or project I’ve worked on. There was always a more suitable and easier to use alternative.

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7 Responses to “Two generations of completely failed technology”

  1. kretes Says:

    Maybe some arguments? Or not?

  2. bah Says:

    Same Rod Johnson was completely ignoring rich client applications…

  3. bort Says:

    IBM is responsible for most of the crappiest code in Java – Date, Calendar and EJB. I did a project on EJB 1.0 and it worked but I had to create BMP framework that tied into a home-grown ORM. Yuck – but it was 1999…

    EJB 1.0 did make three-tier development easier that it had been before but yeah, IBM created a spec without looking at anything non-IBM.

  4. Tom Says:

    I realized recently that some technologies were made to sell servers, and other technologies were made to help developers be productive.

    Many Java products were designed to sell servers; whereas Ruby and Spring were designed to make developers productive.

  5. RemcoB Says:

    “The cause of object-relational mapping probably lost at least six years because of that”

    No, ORM is the cause. It’s a stupid idea to try to map a beautiful relational model to an object model.

  6. Vincent Says:

    It’s a stupid idea to try to map a beautiful object model to a relational model 😉

  7. RemcoB Says:

    vincent, we agree on the mapping part?! 🙂


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